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Gloria Steinem, Reb Susan Talve, & Catholic Climate Activist on "The Church & Women"

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Should "Outsiders" Criticize Subordination of Women in Catholic Theology & Practice? [Our initial essay on that issue, by Rabbi Arthur Waskow, is now available at Shalom Center and at Huffington Post]

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https://theshalomcenter.org/sites/default/files/styles/350x175/public/photossidebyside2_0.jpg?itok=tVV2Lxbt 10/23/2015 From Gloria Steinem:

Arthur -- I think that as always, you make perfect sense, and of course, it's okay to both praise and criticize from outside a religion. You can't claim a truth that impacts the lives of others outside it without being subject to and heeding the voices of others.

It's especially interesting -- and a revelation to me -- that the Catholic position stems in part from early rabbinic misinterpretation.

The Shalom Center seeks to be a prophetic voice in Jewish, multireligious, and American life.

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The Pope, the County Clerk, and the Ratfuckers

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  • If you are one of those people who are not happy with what he’s done and said since he was elected Pope, you’d be looking to ratfuck the pope’s visit to the United States, put him in a box.
  • Part 1:Pope Francis met with openly gay couple — and unlike Kim Davis, who ambushed him, he did so intentionally.
  • Part 2: Charles Pierce nailed it: The Vatican confirms Pope Francis was “ratf*cked” into meeting Kim Davis.

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Part 1:Pope Francis met with openly gay couple — and unlike Kim Davis, who ambushed him, he did so intentionally.

Unlike the publicity stunt manufactured by Kim Davis, her lawyers, and elements within the church hostile to Francis’ agenda, this meeting was both deliberate and purposive.

Yayo Grassi and his partner, Iwan, were the "former student and his family" from the papal statement on Davis.

Scott Eric Kaufman, Salon

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Friday, Oct 2, 2015 | Pope Francis met with a gay couple the day before he met with same-sex marriage opponent Kim Davis, CNN’s Daniel Burke reports.

Yayo Grassi and his partner, Iwan — old friends of the pope from Argentina — visited the pontiff and were greeted with warm hugs. In an interview with CNN, Grassi said that “three weeks before the trip, he called me on the phone and said he would love to give me a hug.”

Scott Eric Kaufman is an assistant editor at Salon. He taught at a university, but then thought better of it.

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Part 2: Charles Pierce nailed it: The Vatican confirms Pope Francis was “ratf*cked” into meeting Kim Davis.

Esquire's Charles Pierce speculated that Pope Francis had been railroaded by Evangelicals. Turns out he was right.

Scott Eric Kaufman, Salon

 

Friday, Oct 2, 2015 | On Thursday, Charles Pierce speculated that the pope was “ratfucked” into meeting Kim Davis, and as conspiratorial as his speculation seemed at first, Vatican spokesman Reverend Federico Lombardi largely confirmed it in a statement released Friday morning.

Pierce wrote that we must “stipulate that there are more than a few members of the Church’s permanent bureaucracy, both within the Clan Of The Red Beanie and without, who are not happy that this gentleman got elected Pope, and who are not happy with what he’s done and said since he was.” If you are one of those people “and you’re looking to ratfuck the pope’s visit to the United States, and to his agenda in general, you’d be looking to put him in a box.”

Scott Eric Kaufman is an assistant editor at Salon. He taught at a university, but then thought better of it.

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The “Cool Pope” honeymoon is over.

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  • Meeting with Kim Davis could be a tipping point for American progressives.
  • Sensible little Fiat aside, he's still the leader of one of the world's most sexually conservative institutions.
  • Francis falters in addressing sex abuse.

Scott Timberg, Salon

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Wednesday, Sep 30, 2015 | Imagine if a rumor started to spread that Kim Davis – the Kentucky clerk disdained by many liberals for her very noisy opposition to gay marriage – had met with Jon Stewart, or Elizabeth Warren, or Bernie Sanders, or Cornel West, or just about any progressive hero. It would be pretty clear that it was either a hoax, or a media stunt resembling a cage match. We’d expect leaked photos with the two wearing boxing gloves.

But the early murmurings that Davis met with Pope Francis, increasingly known among liberals and lefties as the Cool Pope, turned out to be for real. After half a day of speculation, the New York Times confirmed the encounter with reference to a Vatican spokesman.

Scott Timberg: Athens GA-based arts/ culture writer, Salon staffer, author of Culture Crash: The Killing of the Creative Class (Yale 2015), Wesleyan alum, iffy guitar player

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Francis falters in addressing sex abuse, Dennis Coday, National Catholic Reporter

  • Sep. 23, 2015 | Francis will need to show some deliberate, dramatic action to prove that he understands the gravity of this problem.
  • After he shows he understands it, he will then have to prove that he will do something about it.

Special Report | Pope Francis I In the United States: Week of October 2, 2015

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Francis I is the new face of a more moderate, less antagonistic brand of Catholic Church.

8 New Items including:

  • 30,000 Murdered In Argentina While Pope Francis Was Top Jesuit, Millions While Pius XII Was Pope
  • 5 Amazing Ways Pope Francis Made Republicans Squirm Yesterday
  • Pope Francis on clerical abuse: 'I do not judge those who are not able to forgive'
  • Pope in Philadelphia: message of love says family is the 'future' of church
  • Pope Francis given rockstar welcome in New York to close historic day in US
  • Native Americans Decry Sainthood For California's Iconic Missionary
  • Pope Francis Castigates World Elite at U.N. — Links Environmental Destruction and 'Social Exclusion'
  • Breaking Down The Pope’s Address To Congress

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30,000 Murdered In Argentina While Pope Francis Was Top Jesuit, Millions While Pius XII Was Pope, Jay Janson, Countercurrents

27 September, 2015 | Pope’s visit to USA, blown up to super large proportions, a media inculcated impression that God’s representative on planet Earth is blessing America as its investors in profitable use of US Armed Forces go on destroying nations and peoples. Article not intended merely to unmask the Pope we are being hyped about, but to show the Papacy has long been an instrument of the wealthy who brutally misrule most of humanity.

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5 Amazing Ways Pope Francis Made Republicans Squirm Yesterday, Patricia Miller, Salon

Friday, Sep 25, 2015 12:11 PM CDTIn his speech to Congress, the pope made one thing very clear: Republicans aren't acting very Christian

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Pope Francis on clerical abuse: 'I do not judge those who are not able to forgive' Guardian

Pope also suggests Kentucky clerk Kim Davis, who was jailed for refusing marriage licences to gay couples, was denied her right to religious freedom.

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Pope in Philadelphia: message of love says family is the 'future' of church, Adam Braeton, Guardian

Saturday, 26 September 2015 | Free-wheeling remarks at World Meeting of Families focus on children and grandparents, not abortion or same-sex marriage

  • At Independence Hall: Francis forcefully defends immigrants
  • At mass: Pope praises women with vision to reinvigorate church
  • In the air: Francis requests impromptu flight over Statue of Liberty
  • Gallery: Pope-mania sweeps Philadelphia ... and its dogs
  • Video: Pope Francis leaves lasting impression amongst loving fans

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Pope Francis given rockstar welcome in New York to close historic day in USGuardian

Thursday, 24 September 2015 | Pope touches on Mecca hajj tragedy and church sex abuse scandal during evening mass at St Patrick’s where thousands had turned out to greet him.

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Native Americans Decry Sainthood For California's Iconic Missionary, Julian Brave NoiseCat, Huffington Post

Junípero Serra "created and brought genocide to the California Indian people."

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Pope Francis Castigates World Elite at U.N. — Links Environmental Destruction and 'Social Exclusion', Reynard Loki, AlterNet

"The misuse and destruction of the environment are also accompanied by a relentless process of exclusion," the pontiff said.

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Breaking Down The Pope’s Address To Congress, CAP Action War Room

  • Sep 24, 2015 | “Mr. Speaker, The Pope Of The Holy See!”
  • Today, Pope Francis made history yet again by becoming the first pope to address a joint meeting of Congress. Speaking for nearly an hour on a range of issues, the pope’s overall message was one of peace, cooperation, and action. Pope Francis made sure to include members of Congress in his call to action, stating, “your own responsibility as members of Congress is to enable this country, by your legislative activity, to grow as a nation.” Though he is the leader of the Catholic Church, today’s speech solidified Pope Francis’s role as a moral force for Catholics and non-Catholics alike.
  • We’ve put together a summary of the key points in his speech. Head over to ThinkProgress for a complete run-down.

Special Report | Pope Francis I In the United States: Week of September 26, 2015

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  • Francis I is the new face of a more moderate, less antagonistic brand of Catholic Church.
  • 8 New Items including:
    • Pope Francis addresses Washington crowd after historic speech to Congress
    • Pope Rejects Lunch with Boehner, Pelosi, McConnell, Reid: He will be Dining with the Homeless
    • Pope Francis declares Junípero Serra a saint on surprisingly political visit to DC
    • Francis falters in addressing sex abuse
    • Francis tells US bishops to be ‘promoters of the culture of encounter’
    • US progressives hope Pope Francis can bring moral force to key issues
    • The Papal Visit Brings Forth Ugliness From the Right
    • Francis Visits the Church that John Paul Broke

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Pope Francis addresses Washington crowd after historic speech to Congress, Guardian US

  • Sep 24, 2015 | Video: Pontiff’s speech challenges politicians on immigration, death penalty, climate change and more in surprisingly direct address to America’s legislative body.
  • The speech: Francis urges Congress to treat immigrants in ‘humane and just’ way
  • Top scientist: Pope’s climate push is ‘raving nonsense’
  • Video: Francis to meet family that faced deportation to Mexico

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Pope Rejects Lunch with Boehner, Pelosi, McConnell, Reid: He will be Dining with the Homeless, Ring of Fire

September 23, 2015 | We now know why the United States Congress absolutely did not want Pope Francis to come to America. He makes them look like the complete as*holes they are. Obviously, Congress thought Pope Francis would be honored to dine with them, and all their pomp and prestige. They were wrong.

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Pope Francis declares Junípero Serra a saint on surprisingly political visit to DC, Guardian US

  • Sep 23, 2015 | Canonisation of Junípero Serra has led to Native American protests
  • Thousands greet pontiff in Washington ... and he hugs a 5-year-old
  • Analysis: Obama and the pope defend ‘religious liberty’ – but where?
  • Pope confronts US bishops on ‘difficult moments’ and ‘healing to victims’
  • Pope Francis calls for urgent action on climate change at White House

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Francis falters in addressing sex abuse, Dennis Coday, National Catholic Reporter

  • Sep. 23, 2015 | Francis will need to show some deliberate, dramatic action to prove that he understands the gravity of this problem.
  • After he shows he understands it, he will then have to prove that he will do something about it.

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Francis tells US bishops to be ‘promoters of the culture of encounter’, Joshua J. McElwee, National Catholic Reporter  

Sep. 23, 2015 | Pope Francis has earnestly outlined exactly what he wants from the U.S. Catholic bishops, telling them Wednesday that they should seek to be shepherds who never shy away from dialogue, do not fight with one another, and always seek out opportunities for encounter.

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US progressives hope Pope Francis can bring moral force to key issues, Guardian US

Tue, 22 September 2015 | Campaigners believe the pontiff’s visit can lift their work on climate change, income inequality, immigration and mass incarceration above partisan swamp

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The Papal Visit Brings Forth Ugliness From the Right, Frank Cocozzelli, Talk to Action

Tue Sep 22, 2015 | In a recent press release, Catholic League president Bill Donohue warned, "Pope Visits To U.S. Occasion Ugliness." Donohue then went on to describe the activities of several Catholic and non-Catholic Progressive leaning organizations during the last two papal visits. As is his wont, Donohue recklessly tarred dissent (by the Women's Ordination Conference, for example) as anti-Catholic behavior.  Donohue demagogically conflates progressive and liberal dissent with hate. There are important differences between hate and dissent, regardless of the source.

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Francis Visits the Church that John Paul Broke, Patricia Miller, Religion Dispatches, Patricia Miller, Religion Dispatches

September 21, 2015 | What we now call the Catholic Church looks very different from the church of 1979. Francis will find a fractured church where a significant number of practicing Catholics aren’t receptive to his papacy and its message, and where a large population of those who would presumably be supportive of his papacy and its priorities are politically and doctrinally alienated. Ironically, this diminished, splintered church—or, nascent churches—is largely the creation of John Paul, the last pope to get a rock star reception when he came to America.

 

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